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On an episode of Super Soul Sunday, Oprah sat down with Shonda Rhimes and had a very open conversation about why they don’t want to be married.

Shonda explains her reasoning:

[It] feels obvious and maybe silly or something to people who are married or people who are older, people who have been through it,” Rhimes says in the above video. “But if you’re a woman in your thirties or forties, that’s a big deal. Everybody’s asking you all the time if it’s going to happen … There’s a huge amount of pressure…it’s not a dream of mine.

Oprah chimed in:

I wanted Stedman to want to marry me. The moment he asked me, I was like “I have to really get married”? We decided not to get married because I was supposed to do a book (in 1993) and Stedman said, he did not want to have his wedding disturbed by all these people asking about the book…And I said “okay”…and that was it…but I realized I don’t want to get married…because I couldn’t have the life that I created for myself…

Watch the full episode on “SuperSoul Sunday” 11 a.m. ET on OWN.

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